The code of honour develops from the dual role of the masters: they are both your superior officers and the occupying army. I am very grateful for all the replies to my post. Anyone who read a newspaper, looked at magazine, or watched TV, knew about Playboy Bunnies. I went to his house to ask his advice about going to the Bar. This helped the top brass to keep an eye on its officers, and ensured that the officers were kept emotionally tethered to the schools from which they had come themselves which fostered a sort of nostalgic infantilism, and helped to shroud the intellectual and moral insupportability of Iwernes theology. And we never, ever, read the rest of that parable. I am still a lay Christian (now very much not evangelical), and thankful for it. I hope our conservative Evangelical friends take the book seriously; denial is tempting, but proper engagement is best for everyone. Im not aware that there was an emphasis on, or indeed any teaching about, purity (if that refers to sexual behaviour). We laid tables and did a certain amount of cleaning. But Smyths victims should not be subjected to a delay in the full publication of the report beyond September. (As Ridley Hall and St Johns Nottingham were solidly open-evangelical and Oak Hill solidly conservative-evangelical, it was naturally over Wycliffe that the battle took place.) Eastern Africa still needs relief, clerics and agencies say, New principal appointed for Oak Hill College. My wife asked me the other day whether I thought that Smyth was a simple sadist, or whether he actually believed the theological justifications that he mouthed. The great late Theo Zinn here gives an excellent flavour of the academic atmosphere of the school in the early 1970s, with the famous Play (Terences Phormio): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eUsTqQI0Gg and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UkNDbYb8O4&t=23s. He was about twenty. That is probably why the chosen participants were the authority figures rather than students who would have been in danger of being embarrassed. We will see. It may be important to know that Pussy was the (presumably informal) name of Bashs aunt, who had lived with his family during his upbringing. But play among friends will be found less among the married than among the unmarried. The theology was banal, stern, and cruel a set of suffocatingly simple propositions held with steely eyed zeal. Independent Safeguarding Board: Even more Confusion? Sports had replaced Athens as the ideal city state and not for nothing did Loretto and Sedburgh choose as their motto Spartam nactus est, hanc exorna. Maybe it was an Oxbridge thing (identification of school attended), when I belonged to a Cambridge CU in the 70s I remember discussion of schools mainly Sherbourne but perhaps thats because a few from college came from there. First, there are those who remained inside their ghetto. Jason M Fletcher specializes in internal medicine in Garden Grove, CA and has over 18 years of experience in the field of medicine. So maybe it was in fact a particularly Iwerne thing? Secondly both of these categories remain students for appreciably longer than others. 2nd clarification: In fact the bishop (actually Archbishop or probably at the time Archbishop-elect) was David Penmans successor at Melbourne, Keith Rayner. Unquestioning obedience to the upper echelons was expected. David Fletcher is 5-9 (175 cm) tall. David Fletcher dies, criticised, with an enormous shadow overhanging his legacy, What will make us most angry is the paeans of praise that will inevitably mark his passing. WebAngels' David Fletcher: Activated by Halos. Perhaps the obsession with school and class is around the church world? We also had, perhaps in the autumn, recruiting drives where boys were urged to bring their friends along to class; indeed, there were rewards (in the shape of points for your team) if you did this. It is that minority that Bleeding for Jesus examines, who they were, how they operated, and how they escaped detection. I think this must have been the summer of 1970. He also facilitated his relocation to Africa in 1984, received notice of beatings in Zimbabwe in 1989, and contact from the Zimbabwean lawyer David Coltart in 1993. If the public schools lost their traditional ethos, there would be no officer class; if there were no officer class, not only would the rest fail to obey the lead of those who had education, capital or position, but they would deny even Christianity itself. The exhortation only to look inwards to the elite teachers and to avoid all external non-permitted sources of information, ensures this. I didnt want to join and my father (from the Brethren who actually served in WW2, rather than being a conscientious objector) said theyll get you into uniform soon enough! My alternative was cycling! As a youngster growing up in 1960s North London I attended Haberdashers Askes in Elstree and the local Crusaders group on Sunday afternoons. Its good to remember not everyone suffered. David Fletcher was born on May 31, 1994. Even if they had seen supernatural writing on the wall telling them to stop Smyth by going to the police, it is arguable that the Fletchers would have been able to talk them out of it. But I also remember Jonathan Fletcher at that time saying with pride that he would never watch a film with a more adult rating than PG. Where was David Fletcher born? Any books that pretended that there was much in humans to explore or describe were suspect. The other unpleasant aspect of VPS, correctly identified in the Guardian, was its concentration on privileged young people, aiming with great success at getting public schoolboys to become the future leaders of the C of E. In this it resembles the now moribund Moral Rearmament movement, which targeted key men who might be expected to become political leaders. However, he never reported Smyth to the police. I always judged I didnt have any of these as a motive which may well have been so to an extent, and just went with truth. My prep school in the early 1950s was definitely about forming an officer class. By far the most important thing about a VPS man was that he should be both keen (i.e. Janet Love it. But in rather obscure prose it also stated that the representations process, for all involved is expected to be complex, with the eventual date of publication being determined by this. I certainly puzzled over the attitude to grassing, since it seemed to go against the Christian truth/lies thing the only explanation I could come up with was that it had been found in practice that peoples motives were rarely pure in grassing they might (a) be gossiping, (b) be forgetting that adults could often see for themselves what was going on, (c) be acting self-righteously, (d) be actively malicious by reporting people with whom they had a previous beef or history of conflict, on whom they wanted revenge. Two big members of the party leapt out of the car, seized P, and bundled him, pretending to protest, into the car, which then roared away, leaving the bus queue wondering if they had witnessed a kidnapping. words fail me! All this was part of what Annan described as the insufferable ideal: the national need to form gentlemen and, specifically, Christian gentlemen, who would lead their obedient men over the top and march strait as a fox across no-mans land to almost certain, but glorious, death. Its true that the Revd Nash introduced some absurd military labels for the staff, but they didnt mean anything. Strange, though, that a school in the lee of the Abbey and Church House should not be fertile ground for the faith. By erecting walls around the chosen its quite possible to see, by reading the above various threads, that sometimes that ignorance endures in perpetuity. I was involved in the Iwerne camps for several years from Summer 1982, as a Senior Camper (general dogsbody) for a year, and then as an Officer. He inherited from EJH Nash and then built up the whole edifice of Iwerne and its spiritual style. They were established by E.J.H. I am then portrayed as a badly behaved disabled person. But it was the late Rev David Fletcher (1932-2022), commandant (overall leader) of the Iwerne camps from the 1960s until he became rector of St Ebbes Oxford in 1986, who would have let the bulk of them in on the secret. We instrumentalized people. This is a very interesting and useful contribution to understanding what went wrong at Iwerne. Thinking about the non-innocent activities and particularly the disrespect for property and prank in the post. Jonathan is one of the High Priests of Conservative Evangelicalism: Iwerne is his power base. Smythe, presumably, felt himself divinely ordained to beat that prospect out of his charges: in his deranged mind there was simply too much at stake. Very interesting. I can vouch for this. I had just been converted to evangelical Christianity through the college Christian Union group, which was very vigorous and contained several associates of VPS (Varsity Public Schools), then the proper name for what was informally called Iwerne Minster or Iwerne (though the actual venue was the nearby Clayesmore School). Camp talks were vetted privately for orthodoxy beforehand, and subject to detailed public criticism afterwards. And as for the Sermon on the Mount? Nothing untoward happened. The Rev The Honourable David Fletcher, 89, ran the Iwerne camps, where a number of boys have claimed they were groomed and violently beaten by John Smyth QC. I wonder how often this is replicated in the Church of England. Its not my idea of fun. The Rev The Honourable David Fletcher, 89, ran the Iwerne camps, where a number of boys have claimed they were groomed and violently beaten by John Smyth QC. In fact, he was a man who covered up horrific abuse for 40 years, and he must bear significant responsibility for Smyths continuing abuse in Africa. In neither case, therefore, were the powerful exploiting the less powerful. independent) schools. How tall is David Fletcher? He served in that capacity continuously until August 2016, only resigning his post when the Iwerne Trust was closed in a bid to distance it from its successor. It guaranteed devotion to regiment, college, hospital, the civil and colonial service or to Jardine Matheson. He was employed as overall leader of the Iwerne Camps from 1962-86. If I were a newcomer, that would have put me off for good. The scandal had to be managed for the sake of the work and these young officers were persuaded that they were crucial to the stop Smyth operation. Anyway, while totally non-militaristic (indeed we rather looked down on the Boys Brigade with its uniforms and bands), we did use the language of Commandant (shortened to Commy), Adjutant (Adgy), Quarter-Master and Tent Officer at camps into, I think, the 1970s at least and without thinking twice about it. The Rev The Honourable David Fletcher, 89, ran the Iwerne camps, where a number of boys have claimed they were groomed and violently beaten by John Smyth QC. The journey worked for some; a colleague from a similar school background took that journey, thrived in it and is now a key player in the emerging story. I met John Smyth myself only once probably in 1982. Not something I would have thought of but I dont see why people cant occasionally have a bit of lighthearted fun no matter how old they are. Three of those present were from my college. There were a number of scions of illustrious families in the arts and media among my contemporaries, such as the Attenborough girls. John Smyth was the Chairman of the Iwerne Trust. Websea palms membership rates wjmj radio personalities david fletcher iwerne. Something had to be done to stop the fish rotting from the head. He died of a heart attack in 2018 aged 77 at his home in Cape Edmund, I think you underestimate the militarism of the whole public school system. Apart from the one student (who was known to be game for a laugh, a terrific guy and a friend). Following David Fletchers death, Smyths victims released a statement saying that now, part of our truth, our story dies. I can support Edwards account from my own experience of being a senior camper at Iwerne. My school was Liberal catholic C of E with plenty of emphasis on corporal punishment, as mentioned before. At the revue at the end of the Iwerne camps we sang a sentimental song: Roll out those lazy, hazy, crazy days of summer, at Iwerne Minister with [David] Fletcher & Co.It wont be long before we all pack up and go. Our wistfulness was misconceived. The religious outlook of that cadre would therefore depend upon that of their parents, to a greater extent than in other great schools, meaning that they stand a better chance of being more secular-minded.. The process of redemption (if i could misappropriate the word) he describes through serving as a senior camper and attending a training houseparty was one that was offered to me as well, despite my even humbler background. Did they recognise your school tie, or did they ask? 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I suspect that the reasons why Westminster and some other inner London schools were not viewed as fertile ground for Bash camps and other forms of evangelical endeavour were: (i) The cramped physical site and lack of space of sports facilities (except in Vincent Square and on the river, at Wandsworth after 1872, rather that at water) meant that it never developed the same overwhelming cult of sportsmanship/manliness evident at other major private schools and, as such, the OTC/CCF did not develop quite the same prestige as elsewhere. I was taught to shoot at my prep school, where the dormitories in one house were named after notable battleships and aircraft carriers; at Marlborough there was still an Officers Training Corps, though it may have become a Combined Cadet Force, in line with the shrinkage of the armed forces. This was almost pitched to sound suggestive to give interest to a fairly basic game of spelling out the letters of a word (in this case Love) with a the bodies of a team of people. Of course, there was no compulsion to tackle Striding Edge, but some on the walk did so. Without Bash there could have been no Smyth or Fletcher abusing many young men, directly and indirectly. He sustained and promoted a structure inside which Jonathan Fletcher and John Smyth operated their horrendous regimes. So I was taken in hand, introduced to the right people and invited to participate in Iwerne by Smyth. I cant comment of course on the Christian formation given at Bash Camps. I suppose JF assisted. Dick France was a lovely gentle man with a good sense of humour. He had been trained to be incapable of the (elementary) reflection necessary to realise the dissonance between sadism and Christianity. As a day school and at the time inadequate facilities for everyone to be sporty, there was zero military activity either. I can remember little about it, apart from walking along the Seven Sisters. Part of it no doubt stemmed from our insecurity. At houseparties associated with St Helens Bishopsgate they did something similar, this time with marshmallows and saying Chubby Bunnies. I went to his house to ask his advice about going to the Bar. A responsible and respected blog like this is a great way to uncover facts and debate theories about what is going on in the churches. Liddell, Rutherford, Gow, Christie, Hamilton and Spurr were/are serious classical scholars. Among his many challenges, Mr Makin has to deal withthe problem of a group of serving CofE clergy now in their 50s and 60s who were in the know about Smyths criminal abuses by the mid-1980s. We loved hell, and needed it. Jason M Fletcher specializes in internal medicine in Garden Grove, CA and has over 18 years of experience in the field of medicine. Surprised by Joy: Reflections on a Book Title. John Smyth was the Chairman of the Iwerne Trust. Forget at length your fears, your panic end, I have been following the John Smyth and Jonathan Fletcher sagas obsessively. That they were able to prosper and cover up also comes out of the context. I agree with Andrew Brown. David Fletcher, Jonathans older brother, was in 1962 employed by the Scripture Union to run Iwerne camps as Eric Nashs successor, until 1986 when he became Rector of St Ebbes, Oxford. Andrew Graystone has done a tremendous job of getting it started, and Im sure theres a lot more to learn. I knew my Bible and wanted to share my faith (ie I was keen and sound!) And I am sure both of them have/had a sense of fun. The day pupils were also allocated to boarding houses: the effect was that no boarding house could easily become a Christian kraal. I remember being astonished that a Christian musical that was popular amongst evangelicals in the 1970s could be called Come Together and even in the late 80s Emmanuel Northwood called their all age service by the same name. What do you make of the Jonathan Fletcher business? I asked. It is required reading for understanding the public school mentality . He inherited from EJH Nash and then built up the whole edifice of Iwerne and its spiritual style. I cant recall ever having that conversation with anyone. CoE Bishops fearful about the consequences of gay blessings vote, leak Catholic University of America Professor Pushes Back Against Conversion Therapy Studies. So they must be resisted but not physically and not by outright lying. Teasing always has an undercurrent of cruelty. Without penal substitution, John Smyth would have had no thrashing shed in his back garden. In 1971, at the end of my last term as an undergraduate, I was again offered the chance to attend a VPS camp during the summer vacation. Dr. I remember one afternoon when there were meringues for tea. Senior Campers worked extremely hard doing various daily chores. Re identification: the fellow student who had a hand in my conversion would have learnt which school I attended in the natural course of conversation. The walk was fine until we reached Striding Edge. Incidentally, another point of beating as a punishment was that it was meant to teach the ability to bear physical pain, and the prospect of physical pain. And the chance of what had been said not being true was very high. Ouch. I think the purpose was to train us to become officers leaders at Iwerne or the associated camps. Anthony Archer on Surviving Church 3.10.19 post identified 1968-78 as Iwernes highwater mark, which in terms of numbers it probably was (peaking in 1977 I believe), with a strong core of participants. That, after all, is not a rare activity not in healthy societies, anyway. David Fletcher is 5-9 (175 cm) tall. They added: David Fletcher leads a long, long list of people who knew about Smyth over 40 years, failed to stop him, and failed to disclose the abuse to authorities. Still, its always good to take a second look. Oh, and in my experience, nearly everyone is brought up not to grass. The most likely explanation for that omission is that their moral vision was blindingly dazzled by Fletcher and the Iwerne brand with its celebrated evangelical preachers such as John Stott, Dick Lucas and Michael Green nurtured on the camps. (This is in no way to minimise the damaging effect on others of his actions.). One possible query, re. The parents increasingly became bien-pensant professionals for whom anything smacking of evangelicalism would have been alien, if not repugnant. WebToday David enjoys a well-earned reputation as one of the most creative and professional chefs in the world of food and entertaining. It disturbed me that Christians who were apparently familiar with the area should show such disregard for private property. Reading different accounts on these pages over the years illustrates this very clearly. The world where only a select few have a say, has gone. Of course Crusaders had been formed in the early 1900s to fill a gap in the market for boys who went to independent day schools: not boarders at Public Schools nor the hoi polloi who went to Board Schools and went to church Sunday Schools. He was also a member of the Titus Trust, which assumed some responsibilities of the Iwerne Trust in 1997. The rest of us descended via an extremely precipitous scree. Its quite possible to be intelligent and highly educated and not see this. At Sussex I had a tutorial partner whod been to Benenden. To be moved by anything beautiful was unsound and effeminate. Its insistence on penal substitution and nothing but penal substitution embodied and tacitly encouraged the notion that ultimate good depended on violence. There it was because if you reported something to the police youd get a brick through your window, or worse. Justin Welby had lived there a few years earlier. Reading all the above it seems that theres scope for more than one research project for a PhD or the like on the creation of the conservative evangelical subculture through Iwerne, lesser breeds, Scripture Union camps, school Christian Union camps, Crusader Camps, etc etc. He too knew how to use the tools of effortless public-school pressurising. A previous vicar pleaded guilty to safeguarding offences after I pursued my complaint when my Bishop wrote telling me I must not complain. There are serious issues around his domineering personality and its damaging consequences in ministry, but I remain convinced that sexual naivete and repression as much as anything more consciously malicious underlie his current problems. Personally, I think that the comparisons with Buchman are apt: the need to shore up both the class system and its twin sister, traditional Christianity, had been heightened by the rapid changes which occurred after about 1963-65. Neither of these is in the category of the Fletcher forfeits; we should also imagine that the japes of the unmarried may well continue for those who continue to be unmarried, there being no within-marriage outlet. I think it goes back further than that. It is easy to forget that there was an earlier, perhaps more innocent, period in the history of the camps. At an impressionable age these exhortations are most likely to be embedded. Yes, some were naive, but not all would have been. The Christian Union organised a series of camps for boys from minor public schools and grammar school oiks (of whom by this time I was one) to which I was despatched about 1957. Its time to face up to the truth about this. Re the omerta of VPS: while I agree that this may owe a lot to the public school military ethos, I would point out that a similar (if less disciplined) ethic of pseudo-loyalty and secrecy permeates much of the evangelical establishment, even where VPS influence can be discounted. And I didnt think it was funny, even then. I went to his house to ask his advice about going to the Bar. Zinn was evidently a far more tolerant teacher than Busby, whose bust (a copy of the one by Rysbrack at Christ Church) may be seen glowering in the background of Zinns class. Whereas, going to American schools, it was hammered into me that reporting offences is a civic duty. Vaughan Roberts (himself a Iwerne man one of the best; an abiding friend for whom I have great respect) made a statement at the Evangelical Ministry Assembly about the Jonathan Fletcher allegations. I attended (I think) two more camps during my undergraduate years. Get the latest player news, stats, injury history and updates for Third Base David Fletcher of the Los Angeles Angels on NBC Sports Edge. WebAngels' David Fletcher: Activated by Halos. This is the danger of the cult of personality around Smyth and dare I say, a number of current big names especially in the Con Evo constituency. When was David Fletcher born? But although I do feel deeply for them, my main interest, I must admit, is in the light that the sagas shed on my own past and particularly the time I spent at the Iwerne camps. John Smyth was the Chairman of the Iwerne Trust. So Iwerne, and the Conservative Evangelical world that Iwerne still dominates, were my worlds for a while. They happen in friendship contexts; in school contexts; in medical-student contexts; in Catholic Trainee-Priest contexts. Thats very interesting. A speaker assured us that it was better to be out telling public schoolboys about Isaiah 53 than to be whispering sweet nothings in our girlfriends ear as we chewed it off. One of mine was making up dozens of bottles of orange and lemon squash for outings. He died of a heart attack in 2018 aged 77 at his home in Cape David Fletcher and his contemporaries (Watson, Green) will have been of an age (the 1950s) where public culture was Christian, Billy Graham was packing Harringay, the Queen was backing him to the hilt in her initial 1957 Christmas broadcast, and optimism was on the increase. View all posts by Stephen Parsons . May that be his legacy., A spokesperson for St Ebbes said that he died at his home on Monday morning, adding: We rejoice that, after a four-year battle with cancer, David is now at home with his Lord.. Its also really silly to describe the VPS as a cult. The contents of the Ruston report were not news to another Titus Trust trustee, the Revd David Fletcher, who, as the Scripture Union employee responsible for running the Iwerne camps, had worked with Mr Ruston to compile the report before confronting Smyth in 1982. The Revd The Hon David Fletcher has died aged 89 following a four-year battle with cancer. I was in JFs car. I mourn for what they might have been as I mourn, with less reason, for what I might have been had I not been drawn into Iwerne. He graduated from Ohio University Of Osteo Medicine with his medical degree in 2004. WebDr. Jonathan is one of the High Priests of Conservative Evangelicalism: Iwerne is his power base. You are confusing two people with the same Christian name. I think a lot of women, a lot of dibbled people, and a lot of ethnic (and other) minorities, would consider there was nothing happy and wholesome about muscular Christianity. WebRetrieved 21 August 2021. I only knew that because our tutor, who had presumably read her file, asked whether Benenden hadnt taught her not to plagiarise. As regards the staff, clearly they were and are part of an organized pressure group within the church that requires strict adherence to conservative evangelicalism, but membership is entirely voluntary. Lee Abbey and OICCU houseparties had revues with good-fun content of this nature, in the same way that uniformed organisations and students in general do. So, yes Edmund and others were winnowed out and were of no interest to these project leaders, but others were not, and became more and more part of a toxic freemasonry. CoE Bishops fearful about the consequences of gay blessings vote, leak Catholic University of America Professor Pushes Back Against Conversion Therapy Studies. 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